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Rengar - Is this real?

 
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Redenbacher ?? Senior Member
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08-10-2012

Yes, Viktor has his own item as well that he can pay to choose an augment.

I imagine Rengar's item will function in the same manner. Also, Wiki:
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Rengar

This guy worries me as far as the fate of Dominion goes. It seems he will be in the same class as Jax, looking at his kit. I had figured they came to the determination that Jax-style scaling was a bad thing.

The burst potential of a Ferocity charged Savagery is downright terrifying. Assuming 200 AD at level 18, Ferocity will deal 380 damage plus an additional 340 when used with max Ferocity stacks. 720 physical damage from an ability that could also possibly crit, which then grants 100% attack speed. I'm glad he doesn't have passive armor penetration.

 
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08-10-2012

If your team wins top that's most likely 3 trophies or no trophies at all, you have to actually buy the item, he doesn't start with it xD, i'd be surprised if you even rach the 12 trophies reward on a game , he is pretty kitable when he's not on a Bush which are almost non existant during the windmill fight so he can be kite troll killed. His jump ability being a apssive doesn't have a cd though and he gets sticky inside long bushes yet again an Sr feature. mostly a Sr champion with hardly enough place on Dom.
WHat actually gives me the creeps about him is his empowered savagery which gives him 100% attack speed with his next attack doing
attack damage+decent ad scaling+170% of attack damage+scaling which is a burst capable of blowing half a tank's health and well you can imagine what it does to other people
also resourceless champions have problems here thanks to the Mana aura helping Only mana champions.

 
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08-10-2012

Well, he can be kited well until he gets his 7 second stealth/reveal ultimate, or hits you with his 75% slow.

You're right though, he does lack a consistent reliable means of gap closing. That's a good point.

Just picked this up in the DevTracker:

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the empowered versions are entirely different skills--they don't share cooldowns with the normal versions. your example is intended, assuming that the normal version of the skill isn't still on cooldown from a previous use before you got 5 ferocity.
So back to Savagery after 5 Ferocity stacks - After thwacking you with that he can hit you with uncharged Savagery immediately after since they don't share the same cooldown.

 
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Panwar ?? Senior Member
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08-10-2012

He's kinda kitable for champs that are reeeeaaallly good at kiting. But he has his leap(if coming from a bush) his slow, his second leap if he uses his ult(and anymore following leaps if you run through more bushes of which there are many in Dom) and he is still extremely dangerous building mallet.

I played him in PBE last night. Jungled on SR went something like 13/10/20. I think I got to the 12 stacks on his item. Built him Atmallet with Maw and his necklace. I only got CDR boots, but I think in the future CDR is going to be extremely important on him. Though the other team didn't really have anyone I would call a great counter to that kind of champ so that didn't help them.

He's just going to be a terror in the jungle straight up. And leaping out to trade from the bushes at the bot may make him a decent bot laner as well.

I'm not good with whether things are op or not. But I would definitely say strong. And he's rad as ****.

 
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08-10-2012

In case anyone is interested, here is the replay from that game:

http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/match/703212/

Yes I know I am not great. Thanks.

 
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konfetarius ?? Senior Member
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08-10-2012

So, basically the new king of roll-your-face-on-keyboard dueling.

He will feel right at home in Dominion.

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You're right though, he does lack a consistent reliable means of gap closing. That's a good point.
Shpeed shrines. Also, given bush placement in Dominion, he pretty much has a gap closer for most of the fights.

 
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08-10-2012

Heh, Teemo, Shaco and Rengar. I'd never step foot in that jungle...

 
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larkhill ?? Senior Member
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08-10-2012

played him a bit on the pbe. he's great in the jungle. on a turret, he's very lackluster. his mechanics are a bit tricky to manage in a fight though. he's very spammy but u need to have the right skills up at the right time to use his bonus' properly. if u want to save his root for when u need it, u cant use any other ability, which is an issue. if u spam abilities and go for max dmg, u probably wont have the root available when u most need it

he's also very snowbally. with kat losing her gold on passive, rengar takes the snowball crown. if he gets rolling, he's near unstoppable.

one issue ive found is that if he's not in the jungle, he's easily kited. he has no gap closer and no cc reduction if he's not near a bush. he needs to be in and out of a fight very quickly because in a long fight, anyone with a ranged cc will simply kite him to death.

i see him as a very good bot ganker. if u can win top, a rengar gank is a scary thing.

 
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Heh, Teemo, Shaco and Rengar. I'd never step foot in that jungle...
Especially with new Teemo buffs. .4 ap scaling on toxic shot initial damage...

 
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So, basically the new king of roll-your-face-on-keyboard dueling.

He will feel right at home in Dominion.



Shpeed shrines. Also, given bush placement in Dominion, he pretty much has a gap closer for most of the fights.
I don't consider speed shrines a 'reliable' gap closer, since slows affect the total movement speed instead of the base, as well as roots and stuns stopping you in your tracks. At least with an actual gap closer, you'll get CC'd but you'll still be in your target's face unless they have an escape.

Bushes will help in the jungle itself, but there are few around the actual points save for the middle on each side. How long is the pounce?