The way I see it personally, the people have noxus are amoral rather then evil. Simply put they have decided against the use of morality in their decision making process.They are fine with violating the rules of nature by raising the dead(then again...farming isn't exactly a natural occurance).

The demacians to me at least, scuttle growth in favor of unflinching and unquestioning loyalty. To me that's the closer to morally wrong(I won't say evil because demacians believe they are on the moral high ground. to me to be truly evil you need to believe/admit it to yourself. However acts can be evil regardless of the morality of the individual as a whole). They essentially demand unflinching loyalty and aren't against forcing Lux to fight in the league at her age. While the noxians allow choice(even though the gov doesn't use morals the people are free to and they could bring morality when they move up and they have genuine patriotism rather then brainwashing. The demacians are locked in place and to me that's worse then letting the majority decide not to include morality in important decisions.

Good and evil are a matter of perspective. Demacia's crusade-like way of doing things is really unforgiving, and can been seen as somewhat akin to the Christian Crusaders (or whatever) back in the Dark Ages.

Noxus is certainly a society that promotes Darwinism, in that the weak die off to make room for the strong. Not an ideal society, but one that certainly is organized, has a hierarchy, and knows its direction.

Both have their good and bad aspects. It'd be incorrect to call one "all good" or one "all evil"; it hardly ever works like that in politics.

Demanician?
Noxian?
Demencia?


... -_- Anyways I voted for Noxus.

Been told a hundred times over, but what's one more?

Noxus is a more Darwinist and capitalist city state that follows the morality of nature in the most basic sense of survival. Is the alpha wolf evil for taking leadership of the pack by force? Or is it ultimately best for the pack as they now have the strongest leader possible?

Noxus allows individuals to achieve great things or be culled along with the rest of the meek and weak. Due to this I would think that Noxians are likely hardy and cunning people.

Alternatively Demacia is a Utopian civilization with all the problems that realistically incurs, such as a totalitarian regime which enforces its "Perfection" upon the populace whether it likes it or not. Due to this virtually anybody in Demacia has an equal chance to get ahead in life, and few get left behind...but those that stray from the chosen path often end up pariah.

Due to this I think there would be less outstanding individuals within Demacia, as their culture enforces conformity.

A perfect society at the price of freedom. (Demacia)

Freedom at the price of safe society.(Noxus)

Demacia is light gray, Noxus is dark gray.

I suppose that a better evaluation of Demacia could be made if we had some better context of their religious text. But even then it would offer only a partial and skewed view of their society.

I would also submit that just because one might not like something doesn't mean that its wrong. Until a criteria is set forth as to what defines good and evil and is accepted by all the parties involved this conversation would appear to be doomed to a cycle of platitudes repeated indefinitely.

Imho

INC real life comparsion - might be a bit opinionated, you've been given a warning:

Neither is perfect, but if I had to select one of the two to live in if suddenly earth was going to blow up and I had to move to runeterra, I would probably pick Noxus as my place of residence.

Demacia is best compared to a totalitarian society... the closest comparisons you have on earth are red china, north korea, and the soviet union. None of those are places anyone will want to live in, regardless of personal greed or charity. No one wants to be forced to behave or think or act in a certain, strictly regulated way, even if they would be nice and benevolent otherwise. Ideologically, I oppose Demacia for that reason.

That said, Noxus isn't a rose garden either. They are the classic capitalist society, much resembling present day America. Laws very heavily favor the wealthy / social elite and offer them more protections than any random individual citizen. Let's be honest, if you live in the United States, or any other country that flaunts "social freedom" (I'm not forgetting about you, Euro guys!) and are an average barber shop owner, there's little you can do if a large business organization or political organization decides to step on you.

These "social freedom" countries often have unions and the like to attempt to protect people that are lower on the food chain, but in my not so humble opinion, they don't really do a good job of it, though they flaunt and exaggerate the good they do and spend sometimes more money advertising that they did something nice than they do actually helping.

At least Noxus is willing to be honest about that rather than pretending to do stuff about it and pandering for public view.

My conclusion: Neither is really all that great a place. They both have significant problems and opposing ideals with no clear right or wrong. Being forced to pick one of the two to live in, I'd probably have to go with Noxus, unless I wound up with nothing but the clothes on my back when the earth explodes - in which case I'd go to Demacia and keep quiet about its faults in the interest of not winding up in prison untill I got up on my feet and could move to Noxus.

The problem with demacia is that it gives off big brother overtones, which would make it actually quite a **** place to live. Noxus while not being strictly full of pricks is also a ****storm of a society. The problem is determining which is the lesser of two evils. Life aint perfect in valoran for sure.

You forgot Piltover and the Shadow Isles