{Vermillion} - {The Supersonic Prodigy}

{Overview}

{Abilities} Core.

{Base Stats}

{Appearance}
Some concepts, though i'm still working on the design.









And below is what I'm dubbing as the final version for now, though it's still up for changes if it seems a good idea. This was edited in a little while after the original post.


Pretty pleased with it overall think it captures the Piltover feel while keeping the nods to her delinquent past and the Jet set radio future influences.

(Secondary Skins)

{Lore} Courtesy of Volcano Style's writing skills!


{Dialogue}

-Champion Selection
-Movement Quotes
-Attacking Quotes
"Take your bets now ladies and Gentlemen!"
-Q Use
-W Use
-E Use
-R Use
-Taunts
-Jokes
-Recall
-Champion Interactions
Upon hitting Rammus with a tag: *Bad male voice impresson* "See if you can make it through here Rammus!"
A conversation with Jayce if they start on the same team.
"Ok Boss lets go!" "Who ARE you!?"
"Hey are those my bo-" "HIRE ME!"

{Particle Effects}


EDIT LOG:
30/09/12 - Completely remade kit, please see here for original kit.

Love the logo. Deserves a bump.

Updated the thread to use the council's new template (thanks for it guys it was great).

Also Volcano Style wrote my lore up into a full entry so wooo new content!

Steamskates and lazer wrenches.

<3

(Alternative response: I like the skirt in the third one and the blouse in the second one. The logo is ace. The lore is hilarious. Well done.)

Here's a bump for you, Tea!

Bump

First off, I like the idea. Jayce having a sort of assistant/fangirl that he isn't even really aware of. As a slight piece of criticism, I'd recommend changing the object that she clubs people with to something else (just her basic attacks). I notice that unless it s a sword or an axe, the champions usually vary significantly in what kind of weapons they use. My personal recommendation would be a massive ratchet... or a hand-drill! DUDE, HER DRILL COULD PIERCE THE HEAVENS! :3

Passive: Please dont' take this the wrong way. I'm not trying to be a jerk when I say this. I only bring it to your attention because it definitely seems within your capacity to do this.

I think you could do a lot better on the passive.

While there's nothing necessarily wrong with a static passive, taking the general premise behind Hecarim's passive and just reversing what scales off of what seems... well, not very solid. Not just that, but for a character this interesting, the passive should be reflective of her unusual qualities. Considering you're making her an assassin, here's something I think would be kinda cool (yes, I understand that it will cause you to change your W):

Spraypaint

Each time Vermillion hits an enemy unit or monster with an attack or ability, they become marked with a spraypaint sigil. Whenever a marked unit is in range of Vermillion, she gains (+.25 per attack damage) in bonus movement speed and as additional damage for her attacks against marked opponents. Up to three units can be marked by Spraypaint.

Q: I like this idea, but I think you're doing a bit too much. Mixing multiple types of damage (AoE constant vs. burst) is typically a bad idea. The same goes for having an additional surcharge after its initial activation. I'd recommend increase the overall damage of the sustained AoE and making it into a new W.

W: That AoE burst damage you were doing in your Q? I'd recommend you do it here instead and maybe make the range shorter so that you still qualify as an assassin.

E: Really cool idea. If you want it to have more assassin aspects, I'd recommend that you do a few things. First off, lower the channel to 1 second. Secondly, instead of a simple dash, I'd recommend that you make it kinda like Malphite's ultimate where you home in on the opponent and do damage. AFTER that damage, you could implement the movement speed buff and armor and magic resist increases. For targeting, reference Cait's ult, and just remember to include that it can be interrupted by hard CC (stund, rooted, fear, taunt) and some soft CC (silence, slow). Also, I'd recommend that you have an interecept mechanic like Cait's ult.

R: Not a bad concept, even if it needs a little work. I'd recommend that just anyone in the path of the dash is knocked back instead of more or less leashing them.

Thanks for the feedback, I do appreciate it and it's nice to get other people's feelings and thoughts on my concepts.
I'm glad you like her idea though I will say as far as mechanics go I think we're on a different page as far as what we think she should do. I didn't see her too much as an assassin, at least not in primary role? Like I imagine she would be one but I was going more for a very fluid skill based fun and fast champ. I'll go into more detail with each of your comments though ^^
Also I'm not offended by any of this, thanks for your thoughts =D

I'm glad you like the concept, though I'm not sure your problem with her weapons. You say how about a huge ratchet.. but she has huge wrenches.. Am I missing the champ that uses long wrenches in the league? (I know Heimer throws little ones, but it's a bit different and his don't open up into lasers...)
Though I may have to make a Gurren Lagann skin for her.. damn that anime was good!
Also I love drill, I actually have a champ in the works who uses drills but haven't finished up yet, but I don't think they suit Vermillion..

Actually this seems like a good time to say the why behind my decision with her weapons. Mostly I wanted to give her weapons with a sort of 'non-lethal' feel, she's a crime fighter not a murderer. But I needed the trails for her q hence the lasers. Also I figured since she is an inventor of sorts having wrenches could work (also I like wrenches XD)
I'd like to hear more detail of what you think is wrong with the weapons though, so I can better consider whether to/how to change them.

Haha fair play.
Yeah I guess I could do better, I did have a couple of draft passives for her. The original one was 'Vermillion doesn't receive diminishing returns on Movement speed' Which I ditched for 2 reasons:
a. the potentially for it to be an unbalanceable type of OP was horrendous.
b. If you don't know what diminishing returns are (which I assume many people don't) then it's a passive that would mean nothing to you.
I kinda agree that the reverse Hecarim passive is a little bland, especially for a character like Vermillion, and I think you've flagged up an issue that I could do with changing. Though no offense I'm not a fan of your suggestion.
It's a cool idea, but I don't think it fits Vermillion too well game mechanics wise.
Mostly it's because it requires her to dive in and kinda stay in which is.. not something she'd want to do (she was kinda intended to be a bit of a glass cannon).
Second was I wanted the passive to make her fast. Whereas Hecarim's passive promotes building movespeed I wanted her to actually get the movespeed from it, and keep it.
I do agree though I think the passive could do with a more interesting change.


I see what you're saying here, and I kinda agree though, I don't think I really see it as an issue..? the main reason I put the extra activations in was because I wanted Vermillion to be fun.. and this move basically locked you into not doing anything for 4 seconds. I wanted the extra activations to make the move feel fun.
What do you think of maybe taking the additional mana cost away (it was actually in there cos originally I had the number of spins capped only by a mini cooldown and never got taken off)

I think Vermillion needs some long range poke, especially since she'd most likely be darting in and out of fights constantly. I think it works for her to have something she can help with on the way back out.
I think it's mostly that I see her as a hit-and-run type champ rather than an akali like assassin.

Ah now I really disagree with you here. the idea of the e was it was her main 'makes her feel supah-fast' move, it was a mini dash that could be reused often, it increased her mobility and made her a little more slippery to catch.
Originally it was a mini dash that gave a movespeed boost but I realised that her kit really worked as a jungler except for any tankiness. So we put in the optional channel. (the point was you channel up to 2 seconds, and get scaling bonuses depending on how long you channel.)
The idea is that when jungling you can take the full 2 seconds to get the defense boost vs the creeps, and when ganking for the bonus distance and such to make your gank stronger. But if you ever needed a little extra distance or to run fast you can use the mini version.
I think your version kinda.. avoids all the things I wanted it to do. Nice idea though.. just.. not what I was looking for with this ability.

A couple of people have suggested this to me but I think it would make this really an awful skill. Having what is essentially a melee version of Draven's e?
this was supposed to be a really strong initiate on a team (you use it from behind and drag them into your team) that takes a lot of skill. I think anything less and it could just be relegated to escapes ya know?
Do you think it might be better if it only drags the first target hit? (I thought that the possibility of dragging several people into your team actually made it more skill reliant, which I liked the idea of)


Really thanks for your feedback. I really hope it doesn't look like I've just shot your ideas down >< Cos I like them, I just think we're on slightly different pages with what we think Vermillion should do.
I'd love to hear what you think now that I've said my piece.

Again thanks for the feedback I really do appreciate it. And I'll be thinking about how to change her passive at the very least!

So I've got what I'd like to think of a final design for Vermillion, taking some element I like from the concepts I already posted:



I'd love to hear what people think of this as a final design for her.

(I'm also editing this into the Original post)

Tea YOU, won my heart with this champ <3