Have someone (usually your jungler) gank her as unlike most other mids she has 0 way to escape a gank besides blowing her summoner spells. Even if it fails she will be far more passive afterwards

As mid your goal is to farm minions and to get that gold. Kills are not necessary. Harassing and zoning so as not to let your opponent farm is important too, but you do not need to kill them.

So far, using a 9/0/21 build, Mpen reds and all the rest in mana regen per 5 and taking Clarity/Improved Ghost, and starting item Meki Pendant >Manamune, there hasnt been a single toon that ive not been able to consistently outfarm, even Heimer. Just never never push up on someone without geting them caught in at least a little of Make it Rain and your gold... Your superior move speed at that point lets you harass with impunity.

Like Togo said, the aim of midding as MF isnt to kill anyone, its to vastly outfarm your opponent and maybe force them to port back once or twice. When i do MF in mid, Im never past the half point in the lane ever, or even near the bushes, unless i can account for all 4 other players. Getting ganked in mid as MF is just about the worst thing you can do all game, other then straight up sitting at your nexus.

i main both. Any good player wont get hit that much with double up. So i use make it rain. It absolutly level the creeps, hurt champions, slow them for free harass and let me stay back (if needed) while i collect gold and xp.

And thats my problem, i cant play ashe any more cause any MF should easilly walk all over me. Came to check if anyone had any good tricks and nothing that you guys wrote could even beging to be a problem.

Nidalee and Mordekaiser counter her extremely well. Although her impure shots really hurt nidalee, if you can duck in and duck out, getting in small hits where possible, you can outlast through judicious use of heals. Also Morde just goes 'bah puny shots. siphon!'

Um. So. MF.

The problem is that she runs so fast, she can out run your volley. >_>

Plus as soon as your volley is on cd, she can rape you, or at least force you out of exp range. Make it Rain + Double Shot + W is way more than you're pumping out with auto attacks.

Alright lemme rephrase that. She runs up to you, baits your volley, runs backwards fast enough that it doesn't touch her, then runs forward to drop around a quarter of your health every time.

And yes, I am mad. After you've been buttpwnt by freaking Reaperd soloing mid against you because for some godforsaken reason he was dual queueing with a friend... then he's like "second MF game btw. "

I raged, hard.

I guess he was just way better than me, but still... the problem is that he didn't LET me farm. He just played crazy aggressive and got away with it.