Originally Posted by Scaoil
Name 3 champions that don't want GA, Randuins, Aegis or Frozen Heart(if you want to try naming AP's throw in an hourglass).
Atma's is like a gimmick offensive item that gives armor. Trinity force is the best bruiser offensive item.. its extremely slot efficient and cost efficient. Bloodthirster is the best pure AD item for AD scaling champs. Maw is great for resists/shield with high pure AD(for those scalers than don't AA as much). If you really want damage from AA's as a bruiser get an IE... the only downside to it is that it costs a fortune. However, you can probably get better defensive stats out of an IE Trinity build than you can with a atma's trinity build that does anywhere near comparative damage.
Atma's does not give enough armor to be your only armor item.. and it does not give enough crit to be your only crit item. The ONLY thing it gives a decent amount of is AD.
I guess you could maybe argue for getting it against a team with no AP damage...? Beyond that i just don't get it.
Who doesn't want Aegis? Usually everyone but the support, because that is a core item on support. Yes, Aegis is one of the best items in the game, and if one wasn't on your team you'd want it over TONS of items, not just Atma's.
Who doesn't want Frozen Heart? Anyone but the tank if the tank builds FH, and any champion that benefits much more from extra auto attack damage than from cooldown and mana(tons of those). Even if you say they should forgo Atmas, for MANY champs in many situations Frozen Heart is not a good option.
A bruiser that focuses too heavily on defense is effectively neutered, bruisers are fighters, they are damage dealers, that is their purpose. Most of them have skills that scale with AD. As players get higher in skill you see them go heavier in damage on many bruisers, such as Lee Sin and Jarvan builds which do not have a 'ton' of defense.
Trinity is bad on many champions, while it is core on many others. However Atmas and Trinity do have strong synergy. Trinity doesn't disqualify Atmas.
Bloodthirster has many cons on it that makes it unnattractive on many champs. Olaf, Xin, Jarvan, and more would not want it as it puts them way too much into offense, lifesteal is not strong in shorter fights, and building the stacks up alongside your AD carry can be flat out unfeasible.
Maw is actually a pretty bad item on many champs, although it has obvious synergy in a health-based bruiser build and can fit well alongside atmas.
And just... lol at saying you get better defensive stats out of an IE and Trinity build. Do you realize those are the two MOST EXPENSIVE items in the game? Good luck having ANY defense mid to late game if you are working towards 7900 gold of offense.
Atmas is relatively cheap at 2355, while still scaling well into late game.
You are unranked, I am not surprised you do not really know how bruiser builds ACTUALLY work.
Randuin's is also often too defensive centric for many bruisers, although it can fit alongside Atmas. I think GA is actually very overrated on some tanky bruisers, as you take a decent sized hit to your damage/durability while once you revive you actually have very little staying power. It is better on Riven or Irelia than say on Olaf or tanky Jax. However once it gets to super late game everyone would want it, but I would not want it as a part of many 5 item builds.