I can deal with the ground-star patterns for red and gold card being gone (mostly, Red one is completely different), but what I cannot deal with is the new sound effects.

I mean, this was a visual upgrade... not a sound upgrade. Gold card sounds like Kat's new E, Blue card throw sounds like Zyra's plant shooting a dart. Red card is average at best and stacked deck + wild cards metal-slicing sound is just off.

I recognize that the new gold card animation wouldn't fit with the old sound... but if we can't have it back, can we at least have something different? It really sounds like Kat's E... and that pisses me off.

I'm sure many more people will notice the similarities... Personally I loved the old gold card sound, both the throw and the glorious impact. It is one of the things that defined TF imho.


Those are the only things that annoy me... other than the small wild cards animation and the kinda tall model (both of which im sure will get fixed soon), it's a good change.

Tl;dr: Please bring back the old sounds for PaC (or at least the gold card one). either that or get better ones... the current ones seem rather recycled.

To add something, I like the golden shade effect when someone gets stunned, but is that really noticeable in teamfights? I can think of lux and leona's passive doing something similar. there are probably more... what I mean is, it isn't something that really stands out.

the old red and yellow ground-stars (when red and gold card hit a target, respectively), looked very fitting for a card theme, now he's all modern with special effects and stuff.

Summing up the issues:

-Gold card / blue card sounds seem recycled and didn't need to be updated. PLEASE
-Gold card stun animation doesn't seem to be really noticeable in teamfights. It's just a random glow.
-Wild cards are too small (I'm sure it'll get fixed)
-TF's model is too tall.
-TF's skin should be 100% pale (according to lore AFAIK, and that's how he always was)
-His taunt was removed.

I like the new sounds better

They need to put back "the house always wins."

Speaking of audio changes, his taunt is no longer "The house always win." This is a catastrophic change that I believe will negatively impact game play in a serious way.