Originally Posted by Xyltin
Nope. There were 2 tourmaments where they battled each other.
One CLG.EU kicked M5 into the lower bracket, but lost to them in the finals pretty hard.
The second one M5 won against CLG.EU 2:0.
And in the third one M5 lost 0:2.
That would make it actually 2:1 for M5, a team that plays 5 times better at any important LAN event, while CLG.EU played always worse at such events.
CLG.EU also lost to SK in the regionals. SK trained with M5 to do so, and it worked. So it seems that M5 pretty much knows how to beat CLG.EU pretty easily.
Alex said before that match that SK will stomp CLG.EU after training with them, and it happened.
CLG.EU international: http://leaguepedia.com/wiki/2012_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Spring
You are very overestimating CLG.EU and underestimating the serious play of M5.
He said major tourneys only. CVC and KOE are online tournaments paying a few grand
to the winner. Those don't count.
Online tournaments are irrelevant. Two french dudes hosting a private tourney and paying 1200 euros to the winner doesn't count as a real tournament. They also lost one Curse invitational to Na'vi.
ECC Poland and Dreamhack are major tourneys, but it should also be noted that CLG were knocked out of the online qualifiers for Dreamhack and only got to be there because their fans financed their trip to enter an offline qualifier. That's the only LOL tournament that ever had an offline qualifier, and the teams which eliminated them online (Teamless and Na'Vi who were also knocked out of online quallies) were not lucky enough to have generous fans who would pay for their trip as well. So for me there will always be a big asterisk next to the Dreamhack win.
Counting only LAN tournaments, they are 1-1, though in maps it's 4-2 in CLG.eu's favor.
In titles won though, there is a big disparity.
CLG.eu entered 5 tournaments (MLG Anaheim, Dreamhack*, OGN summer, ECC Poland, EU Regionals) and have one title (20% title win rate) and 2 runner up finishes.
M5 entered 5 tournaments (Kiev, Hanover, Dreamhack, ECC Poland, EU Regionals) and have 4 titles (80% title win rate) and 1 runner up finish.
CLG.eu also never knocked M5 into loser brackets. The one you're talking about is Poland where they did beat M5 in the group stage, but both teams still advanced out of their group into the knockout stage. M5 played standard in that game and knew they didn't need to win. They wanted to keep their anti-turtling strategy secret for a rematch in the finals. If they revealed their hand early, CLG might have been given a chance to adapt to it, so losing in the group stage (or rather, not going out of their way to win it) was a smarter thing to do.