Originally Posted by doombotMECHA
its the 0cs bit that he hates, not the support bit.
ur never going to do anything big, because honestly you're starved for gold.
Lane support and teamfight support are completely different concepts. A lot of traditional supports are ok staying 0CS whole game and will still have plenty of utility, but after laning there is very little reason why any support can't start farming when there is an opportunity (i.e. no objective to take, no carries around creeps, you're passing through the jungle and you happen to have decent clearing speed). There is also no reason why a support cannot get kills - yes there are better people to feed the kill to in many circumstances, but one or two kills going to the support can help their itemization out a LOT, and as long as the team gets assist gold you're still ahead.
There is no reason that you can't build your support Fiddle/Annie/Zyra into a mini-AP carry after laning and leave teamfight support to another more suited member of the team. There's no reason you can't build your support Cho'gath into a Wit's End megatank. In many situations splitting your lane support and teamfight support into two champions gives you the same utility with more damage output.