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When will you nerf cardmaster?

 
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mermin ?? Senior Member
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11-25-2009

pick a card really needs a nerf....hurry up riot its just too crazy to have such a frequent and damaging aoe stun
though the pic u linked doesnt mean much at all

 
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PuppetSoul ?? Senior Member
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11-25-2009

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Originally Posted by God SoRcuS View Post
I play with Mega and Frozt, and against them. And I have owned them too. Care to ask if you want. And even Igor too. So think before posting. HadRO is a damn good TF. One of the best. So don't say that he owned them. Read my previous post completely.

I am not saying that L2P or something mind you. Obviously you are a good player, but seriously just because an obviously damn good player whose favourite character is TF and he plays him all the time, is able to own with him doesn't prove anything.
Yes, but if you look at the team composition, you'll see WHY hadRo completely and utterly carried the team:

He solo'd mid, so he was 6 when the side-lanes were 4. Using the level advantage, and the instant 3v2, he plowed both side lanes. Once backfooted, there is no way for them to catch up, because any time a single opponent would disappear from the lanes... HERE COMES FED CARDMASTER for the three-hit kill. Any time one of the underleveled, underfarmed players appeared in lane, they'd receive an instant 2v3 ganking. And the game proceeded on like this until it was literally unwinnable.

Honestly, PAC wouldn't even be so bad if TF couldn't teleport anywhere on the map instantly with a supershort cooldown. It's the same reason that Furion only has one nuke and no hard disables in DOTA.

And saying that he's squishy is a joke. He's got an instant return to base (teleport then wildcard = instant cast), and he's no "squishier" than other nukers or carries, although most carries and nukers are FAR less dangerous than him.

 
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Zeta ?? Senior Member
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11-25-2009

1) None of you got Magic Resist or Banshee's Veil. Duh, people.

2) Your team had awful builds. AP Cho'Gath with no HP items? Sivir with TWO Phantom Dancers? Please. Learn to buy items right.

 
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PuppetSoul ?? Senior Member
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11-25-2009

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1) None of you got Magic Resist or Banshee's Veil. Duh, people.

2) Your team had awful builds. AP Cho'Gath with no HP items? Sivir with TWO Phantom Dancers? Please. Learn to buy items right.
You don't just spawn with the money to buy Banshee's Veil. And you don't have that kind of money by lvl4 (when TF will start powerganking).

So yes, if their TF is terrible and isn't five levels and 1k+ gold over everyone else from ganking, then yeah, you can counter him in the endgame with Veil.

 
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Dragonien ?? Senior Member
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11-25-2009

people seem to think his teleport is instant and your stupid for it. without his ult on its 3 seconds. with his ult its 1.5 seconds. and if memory serves, the cooldown on his ult is like 70-90 seconds. which is fairly long for an 'instant teleport'.

and as for the whole solo mid then gank top and bot. how the hell is that overpowered? Thats just god damned good strategy.

 
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recursive ?? Member
11-25-2009

CM is easily counterable end-game

He does dominate early-game, but near the end he is extremely vulnerable. His ganking ability drops to almost nil in team fights - his role completely changes, and his killing blows decrease.

Like the others have stated, Banshee's Veil shuts down CM. I've played against teams who stacked Veil and could do almost nothing against them.

 
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Zeta ?? Senior Member
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11-25-2009

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You don't just spawn with the money to buy Banshee's Veil. And you don't have that kind of money by lvl4 (when TF will start powerganking).
ANY Magic Resist would help shut down an AP only Cardmaster, not even Banshee's Veil. You could have gotten Spirit Visage or whatever.

 
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Xeatoa ?? Senior Member
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11-26-2009

Everything is OP

Nerf everything

Everything is weak

Buff everything

Repeat 50x until every hero is the same and there is perfect balance.

This is what players want.

 
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Shillen ?? Senior Member
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11-26-2009

Sorry, cardmaster is OP. Ranged aoe stun on a short cooldown, great map awareness and teleport? I mean give me a break. If he's going to have such a dominant ultimate he shouldn't have a short cooldown aoe stun.

 
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Pieceofcandy ?? Senior Member
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11-26-2009

Just change it so he can't use gate while he has PaC active, then he can't port in with a aoe stun ready to go. At least then you would have a chance to throw disables at him before a yellow card comes up.