Every single match today has been talon mid/riven or Rengar top. Also seen a few Panth's and Xin's - but all have a very similar thing in common - their synergy with bc.

This is in blind pick with even less coordination than regular games.

And they run around oneshotting everyone. Rengar especially.

People aren't even bothering to have ap on their teams anymore because how strong this item is. People aren't even letting me play AP if I ask to, because black cleaver is strong enough to just roll a 4-ad team and a support and be okay late game.

It's one thing when the meta sheep are doing this every single ranked game and playing by the so-called pro rules, but when its in blind pick, that I play specifically to get away from this retarded meta, something's wrong :\

What champs dont need to be tanky? Just the ADCs, and if an ADC is in the middle of a fight so that a bruiser can get to him then he's failing.

TBCs counter one thing, armor. Stack health if they are stacking TBCs and you will be fine. Are they going to do alot of dmg because they're shredding your armor? Yes they are.. hell, they might even shred so much armor that they might be doing TRUE dmg to you. Sounds insane right? Oh wait, what did Morello, yes Morello, say was the primary counter to TRUE dmg? That's right.. health.

Yea, let's build RoA on all the mana-less squishy champs....That's not a waste of gold or anything.

So you're running Kat mid, then?

Do you hate Rylais or something?

If you're playing blind pick, just isnta lock malphite and laugh at the other team. One simply does not one shot the rock.

Yeah!

LET'S GET THESE BARELY-TESTED MAJOR CHANGES OUT NOW AND COMPLETELY BREAK THE ITEM!

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I would also postulate that the problem is less cleaver itself and more that you have a guy that's been fed 12k+ on the enemy team.

The things are sorta expensive, after all.

Team of BC > Any team comp/World Class team. True story

Q.F.T.

I know some people that abuse this for free elo. Hell, i wanted to do that myself but i am just not that kind of a person.
Games being won by one team stacking one item that is BARELY counterable - sucks.
And the sole counter method in healthstacking? Let us look at that!
Top - Can itemize for straight health quite fine, but unless you are Shen/Mundo/Volibear/Olaf/Singed, you will be doing 0.0 damage.
Jungle - Same as top, but harder with minuscule jungle farm.
Mid - Roa and Rylais. That is it. Not to mention that both of these are situational and some specific mids (especially "fire and forget" like Veigar/Brand) will be severely gimped by this.
ADC - Nothing. Not at all. AD can literally do NOTHING about team with 2 - 3 AD casters that stack cleavers except praying that they are retarded and do not focus him/her.
Support - Shurelias. That is it. The only health item supports can buy without causing a tremendous ****storm to come down on them.

Opinions? I for myself refuse to play until Cleavers get hotfixed after having 1 game on the recieving end of this bull****.

Edit:
Not really. Go 4 bruiser comp, each gets one. After that, the enemy team may as well surrender.