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Dues Pater ?? Senior Member
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12-15-2012

why cant his blood scent reveal stealth targets if there less than 50 percent ? Warwick in the new jungle is pretty good but his ganking is a lackluster specially vs those slippery targets like ezreal or even rengar. There are some champions that feel a bit out dated i think warwick is one of them if you think not tell me why.

 
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12-15-2012

thats the point of ww.... his true ganking potential comes at lvl 6! when you almsot secure a kill for your bot lane

 
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12-15-2012

Ja.... I used to main him before he became worthless. Other jungles surpass him too much now, but he might be good in the new jungle

 
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Originally Posted by Ricardo L H View Post
thats the point of ww.... his true ganking potential comes at lvl 6! when you almsot secure a kill for your bot lane
why pick warwick when u can go fiddlesticks or even rengar ?

 
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12-15-2012

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12-15-2012

Never had a problem with WW ganking. If you aren't building FM you're wrong. Twitch, Wukong, Shaco, Leblanc, and other stealth/cloning masters are normally horribly predictable and if you tag them with FM they are dead, and Warwick is so fast that with the FM slow + blood hunt he is basically permastuck to the enemy champ, and simultaneously renders them extremely vulnerable. Very good for picking off foes fleeing from a teamfight or escaping a particularly sticky chaser.

I do agree he should detect stealth targets below the target health though, or maybe just needs a penalty of some kind against detecting stealth champs. WW was made when stealth was in short supply, but now lots of champs (KhaZix, Rengar, Twitch, etc) have it and WW needs to stay up that curve.

 
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Woof.

 
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Never had a problem with WW ganking. If you aren't building FM you're wrong. Twitch, Wukong, Shaco, Leblanc, and other stealth/cloning masters are normally horribly predictable and if you tag them with FM they are dead, and Warwick is so fast that with the FM slow + blood hunt he is basically permastuck to the enemy champ, and simultaneously renders them extremely vulnerable. Very good for picking off foes fleeing from a teamfight or escaping a particularly sticky chaser.

I do agree he should detect stealth targets below the target health though, or maybe just needs a penalty of some kind against detecting stealth champs. WW was made when stealth was in short supply, but now lots of champs (KhaZix, Rengar, Twitch, etc) have it and WW needs to stay up that curve.
one of the problems i find is getting counter jungled by champions like lee sin as warwick. Its not to easy to rush fm on warwick when you have to consider the other items such as wriggles and such. One of the big issues is warwick dealing with burst champs

 
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12-15-2012

True, Warwick clears fast but pre-6 his ganks are, at best, sub-par. Compare with Fiddle and Naut who can gank at 4 and SHaco who can gank at 2. Thus you should focus on farming to 6 and covering lanes for mid and top when they b and only gank if the enemy is an idiot and so overextended its a free kill if you can stick to them.

I have never built wriggles on Warwick unless I am being hopelessly outfarmed, and there aren't a lot of junglers that outfarm Warwick with his crazy sustain... Except the junglers that farm your jungle too. The best protection against them pre-6 and even post-6 is to have the corresponding lane ward red when you are done with blue. If the enemy started red and they come after your blue, well, odds are you killed your blue a lot faster than they did their red and will be long gone by the time they get there, meaning they wasted their time. If they start blue and invade your red, you see it. Free kill + red to either you or the laner(s, depending on which team your are on) when you both rush him. If they are super aggressive like Shaco or Lee you may want to ward golems too as those will get attacked. Wards wards wards, and some teamwork. Those will keep you from getting counterjungled pre-6. Post-6 your xp and gold tends to come from your lockdown ganks anyway and at that point you should have a couple points in HS meaning a couple HS+Smite can burst their buff creeps down rather fast pre-11.

Knowing when to toggle E is important too. If the enemy jungler is in their own jungle at 50%- having it on will alert them to your presence- But if you are also low, that will give you time to flee as well. If you are feeling confident against the enemy jungler, you can leave it off in their jungle so they become none the wiser and don't ping madly when they see the eyes above their head, instead wandering right into you where you can butcher them. If, however, you aren't sure, you should leave it on and maybe not even be there if you are worried enough.

Also, toggle it off when camping for a gank, then switch it on right as you run out. That way you don't give yourself away. Hearing the howl and seeing the eyes is an instant red alert for the target and a green light for everyone else.

 
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True, Warwick clears fast but pre-6 his ganks are, at best, sub-par. Compare with Fiddle and Naut who can gank at 4 and SHaco who can gank at 2. Thus you should focus on farming to 6 and covering lanes for mid and top when they b and only gank if the enemy is an idiot and so overextended its a free kill if you can stick to them.

I have never built wriggles on Warwick unless I am being hopelessly outfarmed, and there aren't a lot of junglers that outfarm Warwick with his crazy sustain... Except the junglers that farm your jungle too. The best protection against them pre-6 and even post-6 is to have the corresponding lane ward red when you are done with blue. If the enemy started red and they come after your blue, well, odds are you killed your blue a lot faster than they did their red and will be long gone by the time they get there, meaning they wasted their time. If they start blue and invade your red, you see it. Free kill + red to either you or the laner(s, depending on which team your are on) when you both rush him. If they are super aggressive like Shaco or Lee you may want to ward golems too as those will get attacked. Wards wards wards, and some teamwork. Those will keep you from getting counterjungled pre-6. Post-6 your xp and gold tends to come from your lockdown ganks anyway and at that point you should have a couple points in HS meaning a couple HS+Smite can burst their buff creeps down rather fast pre-11.

Knowing when to toggle E is important too. If the enemy jungler is in their own jungle at 50%- having it on will alert them to your presence- But if you are also low, that will give you time to flee as well. If you are feeling confident against the enemy jungler, you can leave it off in their jungle so they become none the wiser and don't ping madly when they see the eyes above their head, instead wandering right into you where you can butcher them. If, however, you aren't sure, you should leave it on and maybe not even be there if you are worried enough.

Also, toggle it off when camping for a gank, then switch it on right as you run out. That way you don't give yourself away. Hearing the howl and seeing the eyes is an instant red alert for the target and a green light for everyone else.
thanks dude ill try that next time i jungle ww thou i have a question thou when is a good time to jungle with warwick(team comp)

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