Hi, before you go down. Be warned that this is a conversation between two players. I kind of know one of them, and they passed this onto me. It is a wall of text, and the grammar is not the best. I'm just intrigued by what I read and I was wondering how far off this guy is with what he was explaining. Or if anyone else can clarify some of the other points he made.
This is a conversation with a "low elo" player, and a decently elo player who all I know has a gold boarder. :/
Have a free for all on it guys, I'm neutral.
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Oh by they way. They actually still won this game. I believe the gold boarder player went 17/4/7 and carried still after losing bot lane.
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Anon1 (1:04): man, I'm trying to think of a way to explain what u did wrong with out being a complete dick about it. xD a lot went wrong for bot lane.
Anon2 (1:05): yeah it was a bad laning phase
Anon1 (1:06): Okay
I think i got a way to say a part of it
Okay, as a support your job is to ward, sustain, and protect your adc. Fair enough right? Then there is another aspect to playing support and I like to call it feinting going in.
Each step your champion makes gives away a bit about what yoru going to do next.
There are two ways to apply pressure to an enemy bot lane.
(1:08): First is actually doings something, and the second is showing that you have the potencial to do something.
Let me explain.
In the first an example would be as alistar flashing in and qing then wing.
that applies direct pressure on the adc and enemy support.
they have to react
in other words
in the second theory is the potencial that you could flash and q someone and w that someone back.
You can move you champion in a way that shows you want to do such a thing.
And that applies indirect pressure.
Meaning you can effectivly zone someone
(1:10): with out doing anything other than walking.
As far as pressure goes, you'll notice that lack of vision also increases pressure.
For instance if I cant see leona
I have a ton of pressure about where she is and what kind of indirect pressure she is giving off.
Pressure often builds based on how much pressure you put on a lane.
And they will want to relieve that pressure.
Ways of relieving pressure are, calling for mid or jungle. Gaining vision over your oponent.
(1:12): Or engaging.
Now that we are at engaging, you can apply indirect pressure any time as long as your not well...stupid about it. An example would be taking over their lane bush and not letting them get in it.
which they will have to react by either warding or engaging.
Back to engaging.
Applying indirect pressure is the best way to win a lane, but sometimes you have to actually do something. Such direct pressure. Meaning to actually attack. :P The thing is last game.
(1:14): You were doing more direct pressure moves.
With out me being there to make the trade good, or with out me being able to go.
This is mainly a miss communication thing.
I think.
In solo que, typing or pinging before doing a direct pressure move will save lives and hopefully end theirs.
Any questions?
anything you want me to elaborate on?
Anon2 (1:17): holding lane bushes and that stuff
Anon1 (1:18): Thats a part of it, the entire game is run by pressure. As mid, when you disappear, that puts pressure on all lanes. Same for jungle.
And how do you relieve the pressure?
You gain vision of it, or kill the thing causing the pressure.
Or you apply equal pressure back.
Everything you do, puts pressure and relieves pressure on both your enemy and your team mates.
For instance the enemy see's you port back in warded bush leaving your adc alone. The pressure instantly becomes one sided on your adc.
(1:20): But for as long as they don't have vision of you even if you ported back that pressure remains.
Not enough, to force them back. But enough to prevent them from all inning with out vision.
This is why pink wards
can play a huge part in bot lane.
And every lane gains and loses pressure based on every other lane. And the easiest way to relieve pressure is?
Vision.
Which is why in pro games you will see everyone warding
not just support.
(1:22): I don't know. Am I making any sense. In my head I'm explaining it right, but looking at it....it looks like a wall of crazy text.
Anon2 (1:23): its pretty clear
Anon1 (1:23): Oh here is an example for the game.
I was base and you were holding down our lane. while holding it down you walked away from tower alone and did your moves then walked back.
You ignored the added pressure on you.
And you were penalized because of it.
And effectivly we were both penalized because you had lost so much heath with out applying any real pressure your self we had added pressure on us.
to which we got dived 30 seconds later.
When an enemy misreads the pressure on the map.
(1:25): That is how they die.
Anon2 (1:25): u had told me to hold my ground in the bush and i didnt see it untill u went back
Anon1 (1:25): I meant when i was in lane.
If i say something
and it makes no sense
question it.
I will explain. I wont get mad.
Do what you think is right and react.
But also listen to your team mates. for instance if you are in a 3v3 and the only way to win is if you tank suicides while the other 2 clean up. It is worth it.
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Next game, I want you to go into the mind set.
That everything is being controlled by pressure.
Try to read the pressure.
lol
there has got to be a better word.
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