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swain passive does it really do any thing?

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JustMyBassCannon ?? Senior Member
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02-06-2013

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Originally Posted by VICKLIUS View Post
i agree with fluffy1. yaun an marcus what are u talking about dont campare champ abilities, that is our main way of determining if an ability is to good or not.
Not comparing singular skills, no. If balance were based on that, every champion would have the same passive, Q, W, E and R to make sure it's completely balanced and truly making it the League of Draven.

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PerfidiousAlbion ?? Senior Member
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02-06-2013

Eh. I wouldn't mind having a mana regen passive if it didn't come along with one of the worst mana regen stats in the game. Considering he still needs to itemize for mana regen it seems somewhat pointless.

The rest of his kit makes up for it though, so it's hard to complain.

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Ssraeshza Tvyl ?? Member
02-06-2013

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second, swain has a short cd ability that heals him. granted that's at level 6, but the fact remains that he can convert mana to health at almost any time. cho has his ult, but that's very ineffective on a per-unit-time basis.
Except for the part where Cho'gath's passive gives him health for free?

Your argument is flimsy at best...

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TealNinje ?? Senior Member
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02-06-2013

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Except for the part where Cho'gath's passive gives him health for free?

Your argument is flimsy at best...
Long cooldown abilities that are Cho'Gath's everything. Unless he's using Vorpal Spikes, in which case why isn't someone hitting Cho'Gath?

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RobTron ?? Senior Member
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02-06-2013

helps him allot early as long as you don't super spam you won't run out of mana i like it allot

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KessIerCOIL ?? Senior Member
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02-06-2013

it makes a pretty big difference and lets him keep his ult up for longer if there is a teamfight near minions

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TrinityForceZX ?? Senior Member
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02-06-2013

how close is it to trundles passive? mana vs health vise versa

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SacredMesa ?? Senior Member
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02-06-2013

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chogath pass gain both hp an mana when kills, sure swain gains a little more mana than him but not enough for the cost of 1/2 of 1 of his spells, it would be fine if his spells were aoe, he even gains less then malzathars e an that can be gotten multiple times on 1 go.



Cho'gath's ult also doesn't provide constant healing while active, even while Zhonya's Hourglass is active. If Swain had Cho's passive+Raven form he would be even more immovable in lane than he already is.

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Thubgar ?? Senior Member
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02-07-2013

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Except for the part where Cho'gath's passive gives him health for free?

Your argument is flimsy at best...
compared to chogoth, swain gets (effectively) free health.
say each kills a minion. cho will get hp and a tiny bit of mana. swain gets a lot more mana. if he spends the difference, he can also get health.
it's just more round-about, not less effective.

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OdiIon ?? Senior Member
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02-07-2013

You know what they should do? Put Arcane Helix back.

LOL.

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