If only fixing Rengar was that easy.

I think the armor adjustment might be ok. It should improve his jungle a good bit but his laning only marginally.

Battle Roar is an interesting ability since it already has so many parts. It does AoE damage for no mana, gives chain vest/negetron defenses at max rank, and heals him. I don't know what Rengars are doing now, but back in Season 2 it was actually pretty common to max W first, since it gave harass, tankiness, sustain, and push all in one skill. It let Rengar beat "counters" like Jax. I don't think the extra damage to minions (jungle mobs is maybe ok) is a good idea, since Rengar can already be a manaless pushing machine. I also don't like the armor pen since his W does enough things already. It doesn't need more parts.

If Riot really wants to work on Rengar's late game instead of recapturing some of his early game, then sure, adjust his Q for the late game. I'm not sure how effective it would be though to marginally improve the late game of a non-late game champion.

Rengar never had instant stealth on his ult. He was fine before. He doesn't need it now.

I don't think his leap range is really the problem. I don't know what improving that will actually do to help him.

i liked and support your idead, i have a suggestion too:

Q (savagery) Using 100% of the ad in the first evolution of skill, 110% in the 2nd,120% in the 3rd,125% in the 4, 130 or 135% in the last. (I'm not well defined about the last evolution).


W (roar of battle) before, I thought it needed the buff in damage, but changed my mind, I'd rather focus on the damage with Q, because if W receive a buff in damage, people will improve only it, they will start with sunfire and will be the only heal, heal, heal, someone told me about it and I ended up agreeding that a champ wich is only on heal is annoying, that's why focus the damage on Q, but i still guess that W should deal 50% more damage to neutral monsters and minions, to improve his jungle.


E (bola strike) I see no need for changes.

R (thrill of the hunt) could go to reducing the time rengar become invisible as rengar skill improves, so that the improvement in the third evolution he suffers only a delay of 2 seconds. Where: 3 sec in the 1st, 2.5 sec in the 2nd, and 2 sec in the 3rd evolution.

opinions are welcome ^ ^

sorry about my english, is not my mother language

graciously

You really want to fix rengar.......return his Q back to its old ability.....leave everything else the same except his ult has less delay/less time on cooldown............reason for this ......rengars Q is his only true dmg nuke....everything else is utility........Rengar is meant to dive in unload Q and his emp. Q and then try and escape......reason he was so op before was cuz he could heal for 500 hp right after popping his ult to escape and then be able to dive back in to get one mre Q off.........delay on ult fixes that problem and so does removing his % heal and making it flat....his Q is the only thing wrong right now....

the problem with rengars ultimate without a delay is it made ganking him without premeditated oricles or pink near impossable, which caused a lot of pub stomping rengars to get out free, if they removed the delay by level it still keeps the early level gank out of free card not a real option, but it also makes his team fight much weaker because its either ult before the fight starts, or dont use it at all because you will lose 3 seconds of dpsing for nothing more than beign able ot use his leap again and a ferocity bonus effect, which at decent item / build levels is a considerable dps loss because though you might get a good burst dps back, you lose the auto attacks because you lose your ult (and it goes on CD) if you AA while waiting for yourself to stealth


another solution is to simply make rengars ult function in combat a little different than out of combat, making it so if used when fighting, he gets 3-4 ferocity (which should give him close to another (f) power move) and he gains his passive for 3 seconds (consumed on leap) as if he was in a brush, but the point being his ult feels A LOT like twitches Q, and when your ultimate feels like a hinderance inside of a fight and is vastly similar to another characters lvl 1 access ability it tends to make the ability feel very UP

i'm not claiming to have 'the right answer' with this forum, but these are a collection of ideas, that could all help rengar without making him OP (given if all of these ideas were used he might get to strong, a suggestion is hoping for some if not at least one of the ideas to be used)

bump for needed attention for rengar