Oh yea? What're your runes and masteries? You were probably doing, at best, 1 more damage 'right from the beginning'. Where on the graphs do you see 'tons more damage' 'right from the beginning'.? And your comment about 'even without my abilities up', what is that supposed to add, since we are talking about her passive? It only makes me question whether you had actually activated the passive before noticing 'tons more damage'.

Do you seriously think I mean as soon as level 1? I swear, people like you LOOK for arguments to start.

If you need to know though, check my runes and masteries for yourself on lolking. I'll be dealing around the same damage at level 1 as usual, but then just slightly later in the game the passive will start to get a lot stronger in comparison than the old one.

Since, you know, that's kind of what it was ****ing made to do this time.

And I said "even without my abilities up" because it's common sense that when abilities are down, your passive is your only source of decent damage, and now that it's stronger, it's more useful, so that you're more capable of dealing damage without your abilities up. When you can autoattack an enemy to death quickly because you're not able to use abilities at the moment, it's probably because you're now able to do more damage without your abilities up.

Looooool. I dunno, usually RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING means like...from the beginning? How am I supposed to read your thoughts if you don't write what you don't mean? And since this entire damn thread is about your passive, did you REALLY HAVE TO SAY, "even without my abilities up herp derp", that's what this ENTIRE thread is dedicated to, I think we know how her passive works. Saying 'even without abilities' implies that you think her abilities do more damage too, somehow.