You're mistaken, melee champions are only the best if they can tank and deal damage, not because they're melee. Hence why master Yi type champions are very weak on the map. The real problem with tryn is the fact his damage is almost entirely from him auto attacking at melee range. If you look at virtually all the other champions near the top tiers, name one that has to walk up in melee range to do damage. Not to mention, exhaust or slow spam can severely slow down any damage done by Tryn because champions that can't 1v1 him will just kite him down as he is forced to run/spin up every couple seconds as the opponent team kites him because he has to run towards melee range.

As I said earlier, spam heavy disable champions like nunu/xin/morg/annie are going to force out the cleanse early and spam a disable the next time it's up. And the ability to run away from a melee champ forces Tryn to either waste time chasing or swap targets which allows the person he was chasing to fire abilities off until Tryn's spin is up (or else he's stuck walking).

And as I said, any top team will likely either ignore Tryn while they crush his team as Tryn doesn't do any damage at full health unless he's been absurdly fed or just spam disables on him all fight, I don't recall the last time I've seen any champion crit for 700 damage in TT ever because most games end far before that much farm is achieved..

You... You put EZREAL in fail tier. You must be smoking some strong **** there bro. He has a blink, which is an instant WTF escape. He has that Q, which has around 300 damage at level 3. Just... Just fix the tier list.

I dont agree with ryze being tier 5.
http://www.xfire.com/video/399eca/
http://www.xfire.com/video/399ed2/
http://www.xfire.com/video/399ed8/
http://www.xfire.com/video/399ee4/
http://www.xfire.com/video/399f1f/

Then he gets run over by about everyone in the tiers above because Ezreal was nerfed to oblivion and has weak bases, low durability and lack of disable. Just tell me which champions don't either obliterate him, outfarm him, outdps or outsupport him in the tiers above. And his Q is far from '300' damage at level 3, I'd suggest checking his numbers before you claim that.

what's a malphite

First two videos, Ashe was simply zoned out because it was 1v2 and both(nunu/ryze) had a disable to chase her. Not to mention, ashe (she rushed a banshees it looked like) was just bad and failed to control the wave at all to stop nunu from kiting her if she ran out. Third video had nothing that stood out, 4th video, Ryze did decent damage but highly likely damage champions like Annie or Akali would throw out the same damage (and ashe was stupid again) and WW was underleveled/farmed. And the last one says it was deleted.

That said, I actually ran Ryze almost every game in XPL (before it ended) and did fairly well with it even after the nerfs but his damage is simply subpar compared to say Annie's and his single target disable is just a pathetic version of Morganna's.

So who's TheOddOne? ^^

You sure QQ a lot.
http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/6895/ryzef.jpg

thx

1900 ranked elo player. Number 1 ranked 3v3.
Also, it seems people are misunderstanding what the tiers mean. This happened with elementz list and will always happen. Just because a champion is low on the list doesn't mean you cannot be successful with that champion. Especially in blind pick normal, you can win multiple games with any champ. The point of tier lists is to point out which champions fill which roles better.

Yeah you might win a lot of normal games with Ryze, and yes he can do a good amount of damage, but Annie can do everything he can do, but better. That doesn't mean you will automatically melt face with Annie, especially considering differences in play styles, but for overall team usefulness, Annie wins.

A simple score doesn't exactly dictate how well that champion does in a map.