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Stonewall's Jungle Tier List and Phases

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dangerousbody ?? Member
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01-27-2011

How can I torment the enemy jungler as jungle shen?

Also, is there any list of each jungler's time to level 4?

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xahhfink6 ?? Senior Member
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01-27-2011

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01-28-2011

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Well, what I meant to ask was... Is there anything you can do against that as Cho'Gath? Or do you just have to wait until you hit 6 to get back at those people.

Also, you mentioned a new jungle path. What might that be? Is it Wolfs - Golem - Wraiths - Small Golems, Lizard?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RA0BWE8Hpcc

Any jungler can do some screwing around with the enemy jungler - it just takes some tact and team work. Cho gath becomes godlike once he's 6 though - an incredible invader.

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Not sure what if any changes you've made to your jungle tier list, but I think Jax once again gets a chance to be reevaluated, because the RNG change made his jungling perfectly reliable, and because he now is one of the best controllers of dragon in the game
Trust me when i say - it only changed it slightly. Path is the same.

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Railen ?? Senior Member
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02-03-2011

I find your Xin jungling video very uninformative, didn't cover good masteries or runes, nor a good route. Also I noticed in the very small amount of clips you had actually showing him killing jungle creeps you were not activating his q correctly. It is kind of like Trundles Rabies in that if you activate it IMMEDIATELY after an auto attack you get another attack nearly instantly, however if you time it poorly and activate it just before an attack or during one it will actually cancel the animation and restart it slowing your attack speed.

We both know I disagree with your opinion on jungle Xin, I did not come here to harass you because we disagreed in another thread I wanted to look at what you were doing, compare it to what I was doing and see if I could help you / learn from what you were doing. However with almost no information on what you were actually doing (as far as route, masteries, runes initial clear time, and skill order.) I commented on what I was able to gather from your video.

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Judah the Lion ?? Senior Member
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02-03-2011

Stone, is Yi still within the realm of serviceable post changes? I was anticipating a minor Alpha-S boost this patch to help him maintain a footing in the jungle, but he didn't get it.

I watched your revisited Yi jungle vid., but do you feel he's still solid when you see an opposing WW/Olaf/Udyr?

Thanks.

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Stone, is Yi still within the realm of serviceable post changes? I was anticipating a minor Alpha-S boost this patch to help him maintain a footing in the jungle, but he didn't get it.

I watched your revisited Yi jungle vid., but do you feel he's still solid when you see an opposing WW/Olaf/Udyr?

Thanks.
yes

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I find your Xin jungling video very uninformative, didn't cover good masteries or runes, nor a good route. Also I noticed in the very small amount of clips you had actually showing him killing jungle creeps you were not activating his q correctly. It is kind of like Trundles Rabies in that if you activate it IMMEDIATELY after an auto attack you get another attack nearly instantly, however if you time it poorly and activate it just before an attack or during one it will actually cancel the animation and restart it slowing your attack speed.

We both know I disagree with your opinion on jungle Xin, I did not come here to harass you because we disagreed in another thread I wanted to look at what you were doing, compare it to what I was doing and see if I could help you / learn from what you were doing. However with almost no information on what you were actually doing (as far as route, masteries, runes initial clear time, and skill order.) I commented on what I was able to gather from your video.
That's the mindset video - there are other videos on simply the path. Xin is a weak jungler.

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02-03-2011

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That's the mindset video - there are other videos on simply the path. Xin is a weak jungler.
Ah found the other video, You did use the Q correctly in that one, however I've found its quicker to take his charge at lvl 3 as with blue buff you can spam that quite a bit. Not bad but you can easily shave 20 seconds off that finish time.

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02-03-2011

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Ah found the other video, You did use the Q correctly in that one, however I've found its quicker to take his charge at lvl 3 as with blue buff you can spam that quite a bit. Not bad but you can easily shave 20 seconds off that finish time.
This video was before the Q change and no the charge won't let you shave off 20 seconds. Xin Zhao is slower than most, slows down a lot without items, is not versatile, is prone to counter jungling, and he ruins his after jungle game effectiveness.

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JumBie ?? Senior Member
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02-03-2011

Stupidest **** i ever seen, whats this tier ****? LMAO nubs.

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