When I sometimes have 5 games in a row quit during selection screen before I finally get to even play, I saw the penalty isn't harsh enough.

I just wanted to share with you guys what happened to me, which is pretty tragic. I had been playing ranked with one friend of mine for a while and got up to 1300 elo, which I was very happy with. Then I started playing without him, got a few noobs, a few leavers, and my rank started going down. Before I knew it I was down to 1100, so I decided that in order to SAVE my elo, I'd start queue dodging bad team compositions and players who troll from the get-go at champ select. I thought this was a brilliant idea. It cost me time, but I was willing to make the sacrifice for my rank. As you already know, my plan backfired! Soon I was down to 960, and I decided ranked just wasn't for me.

Finally I asked my buddy why he wouldn't just queue dodge a game he was already in to play with me. He informed me that he'd lose a large chunk of elo. My jaw dropped.

I don't know if anyone else has had this problem. I never figured out that my rank was dropping because I was queue dodging. I just never kept that close an eye on it. I suggest, if Riot's going to continue the policy of elo loss for dodging, that it be way more obvious that you're going to lose your rank.

More on topic, I give this thread a thumbs up, because queue dodging any game at champ select is NOT the same as leaving a game that's underway. The punishment should fit the crime.

To all the people who say "tough ****e, deal with it and play, you might win."

I've won games with 5 carries or carries and mages before, this isnt about that.
It's when you get the idiots who purposely feed, people who instalock twitch with revive and smite and do nothing but screw up a game. For the people with net issues. For the people who are just THE biggest ******s.

That is when queue dodging is justified and if you think otherwise you're probably one of them.

This is also the reason why I don't enjoy ranked, it feels like you have so much pressure.

The penatly is 100% ******ed, i left a ranked champ selection today so i could queue with a freind instead, little did i know i would ****ing get - 20 elo for that, are you ****ing kidding me, its already hard enough to get out of elo hell but i gotta deal with that **** too, and the ****ty completely noob teams arnt the only reason to queue dodge, internet problems, interface problems, F U C King mastery page freezing, real life issues, you should not even get a leavers mark for leaving a champion selection, it should be the last grace period to leave before getting punished, you didnt ruin the game for 5-9 other people, you just made them wait 30 second ( even less after the game queue change top of the list thingy) it is completely ******ed and needs to be changed.....riot... please....

Guess what, my mastery page froze again, in a ranked game, where i was sposed to swap someone for a champion too, so i had to queue dodge, thank you riot, you ****ing piece of **** **** for brain ******s take my elo for nothing, ****ing great, **** you