Originally Posted by Geekweezul
Well then Clearly Mark Mcgwire should be in the Hall of Fame for all the great baseball he played while using steroids...because they weren't illegal back then.
This is probably the dumbest thing ive read on this whole thread. I dont know baseball well (because it sucks) but while steroids(cheating) are illegal, "new" steroids not listed in a banned substance list are not legal, they are still artificial enhancers.. This also has nothing to do with LOL and queue dodging bad players.
Originally Posted by Geekweezul
Good. At least you'll be in practice games and not queue dodging.
Or, perhaps you could read the point of my post in that the OP'er implies that playing against bad players does not help you in anyway so he queue dodges those bad players while I argue that queue dodging pits you against those very same players you've been queue dodging. So he is not actually improving his gameplay using the standards he's set for himself.
Sorry bud but if playing a 'bad' team line up and getting crushed can improve your play then playing on the opposite end of the spectrum can also do the same. The only problem with your logic is, they DONT in both cases nothing is gained from each game. Other than gaining the knowledge that the other 4 people on your team thought it would be a great idea to queue up with no rally, no cv, and a bad team composition. This is grounds to be added to an ignore list and queue dodged for the next few weeks.
If at that point one is still in the same bracket and joining games with ignored baddie, they can get a round 2 trial with a pass/fail...
Also, I must clarify winning a game does NOT mean a person played well, a lot of games I add people to my ignore list on my winning team simply because they did (stupid things/wouldnt listen/didnt know their role(heroes function in 5v5)) and in the process almost caused a loss..
Finally, most of you people have no concept of theory, no concept of critical thinking... quit dealing in ABSOLUTES, nothing in this game is concrete.. Just because you have a single number in your name does not mean the OP thinks you are brain dead... just because you say hello in pregame chat does not mean the OP thinks you have no friends.. Honestly think, the only way to address a large audience(such as a forum) is to broaden your views, aka generalize... Most of the time they are over generalizing to prove a point.. the fact that most of you take everything completely literal show how short sighted you are.
Queue dodging is a symptom of larger problems such as individualism in a TEAM game, large ELO brackets, over compensation to provide short queue times, and simply LACK of 5v5 premade experience.. Playing 5v5 premade games with a group of people one may find that rally is a necessity, good team composition is imperitive, control of neutral creatures is next to required.. people that dont do this will never learn in a short 20-30m game.. it is next to impossible to teach these things so quickly..
which is why queue dodging exists.. a poor champ select is the first indicator you are grouped with people that DO NOT understand 5v5 mechanics..
what the OP was trying to show is GENERALLY, (added to be PC for ******s, that means there are exceptions!) people that fall into this category, also may do some or all of the things he listed..