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Theik ?? Senior Member
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04-21-2011

What happened to it?

I recall that a while ago, Riot was talking about reworking stealth into something else so that it doesn't turn the game into a boring "hug towers or die" type of thing. I just came out of a game where it was pretty much just that, a roaming eve ganking lane by lane, forcing everybody to either constantly fork out gold for oracles and wards (at which point simply picking the champion already paid off, because the enemy team is wasting thousands of gold simply so they won't die) or hugging the tower like the lane itself is a known carrier of the plague.

Quite frankly the game was a total waste of my time because there was no early fighting or pushing the lane, it was just hugging the tower... and more of that. Utterly boring and I feel like I should be reimbursed for my time wasted watching minions push the lane.

So... stealth rework. What happened to it?

 
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Giltia Zero ?? Senior Member
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04-21-2011

What happened to replays? Magma Chamber? "All price points"?

Riot lied is what happened.

 
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Chaotic Strife ?? Senior Member
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04-21-2011

I've actually been expecting riot to start season 2 for the past month or two. I'm also expecting no new maps until season 2

 
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04-21-2011

We're waiting on the resources to get the time to be able to remake Twitch and Evelynn.

Because, any change of the stealth system will affect these two dramatically, and thus not only do we need to touch up the system, we need to touch up the characters heavily affected as well.

I know the delay is frustrating and I apologize but live team is working extremely hard on some far more frustrating priorities (Tanky DPS, etc.)

Hopefully, Twitch and Eve will be less frustrating when they are good and also not be terrible overall at the same time.

 
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Pythonhier ?? Senior Member
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04-21-2011

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Originally Posted by Xypherous View Post
We're waiting on the resources to get the time to be able to remake Twitch and Evelynn.

Because, any change of the stealth system will affect these two dramatically, and thus not only do we need to touch up the system, we need to touch up the characters heavily affected as well.

I know the delay is frustrating and I apologize but live team is working extremely hard on some far more frustrating priorities (Tanky DPS, etc.)

Hopefully, Twitch and Eve will be less frustrating when they are good and also not be terrible overall at the same time.
What I suggest (IMO a good idea). Is to just make it that stealth characters are forced to leave stealth when damaged while stealth is activated(not effected by damage per second like ignite, poison, ect). This creates an easy counter without having to waste money, and not all champs can do it. So it still keeps the "This champ is superior then this champ" balance. Or create an item that gives you full stealth detection without it getting wasted (but that would most likely break stealth altogether, making it UP).

Just an idea, don't have to do it.

 
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Mugz ?? Senior Member
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04-21-2011

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Originally Posted by Xypherous View Post
We're waiting on the resources to get the time to be able to remake Twitch and Evelynn.

Because, any change of the stealth system will affect these two dramatically, and thus not only do we need to touch up the system, we need to touch up the characters heavily affected as well.

I know the delay is frustrating and I apologize but live team is working extremely hard on some far more frustrating priorities (Tanky DPS, etc.)

Hopefully, Twitch and Eve will be less frustrating when they are good and also not be terrible overall at the same time.
Twitch seems a little lacklustre. Nice when you don't see it coming, but the moment he's standing around for more than a few seconds he strikes me as a free kill. I suspect that might be to offset how effective he is while stealthing, mind you.

Eve appears to be reasonably well-done at the moment.

Have you considered a mechanic like in WoW, in which the stealthy's position in relation to the player allows them to see the stealthy? IE: Directly behind, no dice, but walking around in front gives semi-sight a la the initial fade-in?

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Just an idea, don't have to do it.
^ This made me laugh hysterically.

 
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Anodize ?? Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Xypherous View Post
We're waiting on the resources to get the time to be able to remake Twitch and Evelynn.

Because, any change of the stealth system will affect these two dramatically, and thus not only do we need to touch up the system, we need to touch up the characters heavily affected as well.

I know the delay is frustrating and I apologize but live team is working extremely hard on some far more frustrating priorities (Tanky DPS, etc.)

Hopefully, Twitch and Eve will be less frustrating when they are good and also not be terrible overall at the same time.
I'm going out on a limb here: Aren't the people that make new champions (abilities, etc.) the same people who rework old champions? I feel like this is the same job, minus the models.

So in this case would it be safe to say that instead of releasing a new champion every 2 weeks we could go back and remake the old ones? The stealth system would be different, sure, but fixing eve and twitch would be basically the same as making a new skillset for a new champion.


And bonus: graphic and modeling team can work on the new graphics update and magma chamber.

 
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04-21-2011

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^ This made me laugh hysterically.
*Whisper* *Whisper* Well I'm going to buy eve soon (huge assassin lover) and I don't want her to goto waste when they make stealth balanced. *Whisper* *Whisper*.

((Come level 30 all you find is a bunch of OP guys running around with there pants down while they roll there head on the keyboard. And I wanna join.))

*Note: I have used Evelynn on her free week once, and got 36/5/7. So I know it isn't hard to use her. ((Or I am amazingly good)) ((Though the "Evelynn is just OP you noob" comments is a downer ))

 
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*Whisper* *Whisper* Well I'm going to buy eve soon (huge assassin lover) and I don't want her to goto waste when they make stealth balanced. *Whisper* *Whisper*.

((Come level 30 all you find is a bunch of OP guys running around with there pants down while they roll there head on the keyboard. And I wanna join.))

*Note: I have used Evelynn on her free week once, and got 36/5/7. So I know it isn't hard to use her. ((Or I am amazingly good)) ((Though the "Evelynn is just OP you noob" comments is a downer ))
You.. You only need one parenthesis...

 
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Originally Posted by Xypherous View Post
We're waiting on the resources to get the time to be able to remake Twitch and Evelynn.

Because, any change of the stealth system will affect these two dramatically, and thus not only do we need to touch up the system, we need to touch up the characters heavily affected as well.

I know the delay is frustrating and I apologize but live team is working extremely hard on some far more frustrating priorities (Tanky DPS, etc.)

Hopefully, Twitch and Eve will be less frustrating when they are good and also not be terrible overall at the same time.
wait so have you made the reword already and just waiting for live team to work around it for twitch and eve? if so thats good progress from the last time i checked in on it

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