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Polish catastrophy, President died in plane crash!

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04-10-2010

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/8612825.stm

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Mr. Lech Kaczynski, Polish President

Mrs. Maria Kaczynska wife of Polish President

OFFICIAL DELEGATION

1. Mr Ryszard Kaczorowski, former president of Poland in Exile
2. Mr. Krzysztof Putra Sejm Marshal
3. Mr. Jerzy Szmajdzinski Sejm Marshal
4. Krystyna Bochenek Deputy Senate
5. BAHR Jerzy Ambassador of the Russian Federation
6. Mr. Wladyslaw STASIAK Chief Presidential Chancellery
7. Mr. Aleksander Szczyglo Head of National Security
8. Mr. Jacek Sasin Secretary of State, Deputy Head of the Presidential Chancellery
9. Mr. Paul WYPYCH Secretary of State in the President's Chancellery
10. Mariusz Handzlik Undersecretary of State in the Chancellery of the President
11. Mr. Andrzej Kremer, Undersecretary of State for Foreign Affairs
12. Mr. Stanislaw Komorowski, Undersecretary of State in the Defence
13. Mr. Tomasz Merta Undersecretary of State in the Ministry of Culture
14. Gen. Francis Gagor Chief of General Staff of Polish Army
15. Mr Andrew CARRIER Secretary ROPWiM
16. Mr. Maciej Plazynski President of the Association "Polish Community"
17. Mariusz KAZANA MFA Diplomatic Protocol Director


PARLIAMENT REPRESENTATIVES RP

1. Mr. Leszek Deptula deputy to the Sejm
2. Mr. Gregory Dolniak deputy to the Sejm
3. Ms. Grazyna Gesicka deputy to the Sejm
4. Mr. Przemyslaw Gosiewski deputy to the Sejm
5. Mr. Sebastian KARPINIUK deputy to the Sejm
6. Ms. Izabela Jaruga - Nowacka Member of Parliament of the Republic of Poland
7. Mr. Zbigniew Wassermann deputy to the Sejm
8. Ms. Alexander Natallia - WORLD Member of the Sejm
10. Mr. Arkadiusz Rybicki deputy to the Sejm
11. Jolanta Szymanek - Deresz Member of the Sejm
12. Wieslaw WATER deputy to the Sejm
13. Mr. Edward Wojtas deputy to the Sejm
14. Janina FETLINSKA Senator RP
15. Mr. Stanislaw ZAJAC Senator RP


ACCOMPANYING PERSONS


1. Mr. J****z Kochanowski Ombudsman Citizen Laws
2. Mr Skawomir Skrzypek, President of the Polish National Bank
3. J****z Kurtyka President of the Institute of National Remembrance
4. J****z Krupski Director of the Office for War Veterans and Repressed Persons


REPRESENTATIVES Churches and Religious Affairs

1. Tadeusz Ploski Ordinary of the Polish Army
2. Miron Chodakowski Orthodox Ordinary Polish Army
3. Adam PILCH Ewangelickie Duszpasterstwo Polowe
4. Col. Adam Pilch Evangelical Chaplaincy
5. Lt. Col. John OSINSKI Ordinariate of the Polish Army


Katyn Families REPRESENTATIVES AND OTHER ASSOCIATIONS

1. Mr. Edward Duchnowski Secretary General of Association of Siberian Deportees
2. Ks. Fr. Monsignor Bronislaw Gostomski
3. Ks. Fr. Parafiada Association President Joseph Joniec Parafiada
4. Ks. Fr. Zdzislaw KING Chaplain Warsaw Katyn Families 1987-2007
5. Ks. Fr. Chaplain Andrew Kwasnik Federation of Katyn Families
6. Pan Tadeusz LUTOBORSKI
7. Bozena Lojek President of the Polish Foundation for Katyn
8. Mr. Stefan Melaka Katyn Committee Chairman
9. Mr. Stanislaw Mikke Vice ROPWiM
10. Mrs. Bronislaw Orawiec - Löffler
11. Ms. Catherine Piskorska
12. Mr Andrew SARIUSZ - SKAPSKI President Federation of Katyn Families
13. Mr Wojciech SEWERYN
14. Mr. Leszek Solski
15. Ms. Teresa Walewska - PRZYJALKOWSKA Foundation "Golgotha of the East"
16. Ms. Gabriela Zych
17. Ewa Bakowska granddaughter of Brig. Mieczyslaw Smorawinski
18. Mrs. Maria Borowska
19. Mr. Bartosz BOROWSKI
20. Mr. Dariusz MALINOWSKI


REPRESENTATIVES OF THE ARMED FORCES RP

1. Gen. Gen. Bronislaw KWIATKOWSKI Operational Commander of Polish Armed Forces
2. Gen. broni pil. Gen. pil. Andrew Blasik Polish Air Force Commander
3. Gen. dyw. Maj.-Gen. Tadeusz BUK Commander of Land Forces of Poland
4. Gen. dyw. Maj.-Gen. Wlodzimierz POTASINSKI Polish Special Forces Commander
5. Andrzej KARWETA Dowódca Marynarki Wojennej RP Vice Admiral Andrzej Karweta Commander Navy
6. Gen. bryg. Brig. Kazimierz GILARSKI Commander Training Centre Warsaw
Im truly shocked, first i though its some joke, they traveled to Russia for the 70th anniversary of the Katyn massacre.

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Falleth ?? Member
04-10-2010

Yeah. And although I never liked him and his staff, it's still pretty sad. Especially, that today is 70th anniversary of Katyn mass murderer.

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Zerothz ?? Member
04-10-2010

I wonder who will be first to use this disaster to their advantage.

If I were more cynical, I might suggest that Russia might use the guise of a loving, friendly nation to burrow deep tentacles into Poland and eventually envelop it as a satellite state.

...

Good thing I'm not cynical, amirite?

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04-11-2010

Wow, I knew there were many people in the airplane. But I didn't know that there were THAT many :O It's really sad.

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jerzy ?? Senior Member
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04-11-2010

Say what you will, but I believe the Polish president was assassinated.

How are so many important people flying in the same plane?
How can one claim it was pilot error? The pilot would have been a top notch military pilot... he was a president, not some guy traveling in coach.
The pro-Russian Prime Minister was already in Russia a week prior, and stands to gain from the death of the President. Tusk, the Prime Minister, may in fact end up being the next Polish president.
The former President was very Nationalistic and Anti-Russian. He wasn't invited to Katyn despite being the Polish leader, while Tusk was. Russia is showing their support for Tusk.
The Polish plane apparently hit a "tree" while flying at a low altitude, it was most likely shot down by a missile.
The president angered Russia on multiple occasions. He was in support of America's missile defense shield which would have missiles based in Poland.

It wasn't just the Polish president that was killed. A great deal of important Polish leaders died in one fell swoop, all over again. The media says Katyn has claimed more Polish lives. But it wasn't Katyn the first time now was it? It was Russia then, and most likely is now as well.

You can call me a conspiracy theorist if you wish. But it's not like he'd have been the first president of a nation to get assassinated.

(I am indeed Polish. I've discussed this with family members. This wouldn't be the first time the media has lied to me.)

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jerzy ?? Senior Member
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04-11-2010

Apparently the black box was tampered with, there's no audio... very suspicious indeed

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jerzy ?? Senior Member
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04-12-2010

I wonder if the tard that's downvoting me even looked at the list of people that just died and what titles and positions they had.

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Kelt ?? Senior Member
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04-12-2010

Indeed, and the worst thing .. those 6 military representatives that died in this crash, they were TOP 6 most important people in a whole army.

I have no idea how armed forces will recover from this, especially Poland has contingent in Iraq, Afghanistan etc...

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04-12-2010

Blitzkrieg time!

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04-12-2010

The rumblings of WW3 are upon us.

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